You're 100% right the big boy can handle a coyote and a wolf so why waist your time carrying something that cant protect you from the both of them?? Your 45 and your 9mm will both go clear through the walls in your house. I would probably carry the gun inside the waist. The 9mm NATO is equivalent to a slightly overpressure variant of the standard 9mm Luger. Muzzle Velocity - 5.7x28mm vs. 9mm. as nickel-plated cases that resist corrosion and optimized propellants that burn quickly to reduce recoil and limit muzzle flash, help ensure that Critical Defense ammo is dependable in every situation. I have both 45s and 9mm's but I'm not emotionally attached to the 1911 or 45 ACP, it's not better, it's different. We are now restricted to 10 or less rounds in the mag here in Washington State. I have been shooting for around 50 years, and I like the .40 S&W for most things. Furthermore, the 9mm is more practical for the average shooter looking to spend time on the range. Who are we? I say different tools for different tasks. The main drawback is the 8 round magazine (WC). It just depends on what I am wearing and how much concealment I want. You may need to spray again so a larger can is a better bet if you can afford it. These cookies track visitors across websites and collect information to provide customized ads. ERIC! Excellent well researched response. As good a reason as any, I guess. Funny thing though, the administrators weren't the ones facing the enemy and while the 38LC was easy to shoot (basically a 9mm Luger ballistic wise), it did not stop determined attackers so the Army re-issued the 45 Long Colt. Two ProPac set-ups on the buttstock & forestock allow for two 9RD & two 20RD extra mags onboard. Whereas in .45, fully half of the rounds made 500 ft lb or more in a 6" barrel, and one round made better than 600 ft lb .45 vs 9mm? Adam and Eve passed on the nature of sin (spiritual death) to the whole human race (see Romans 5:12-21), which is why we MUST be "born again of the spirit in order to enter the Kingdom of God" (see John 3:3). And I don't think I'd feel like any of them are particularly wimpy neither, unless it was a 22lr that went through with minimal damage. Because when you are confronted in your living room, at a distance of 10-15 feet, you have to drop him before he can fire or you are going to get hit. Any weapon or round in the right hands can be lethal just find whats the most comfortable and accurate with your shots. I still posses a .45 among my various handguns, and I still enjoy shooting with it. Velocity did of course increase further with longer barrels, but to a much smaller degree. The FBI and the armys surgeon General have done extensive data gathering. Damn good question and I have wondered this myself. Watch ballistics videos. A lock ( While the 9's, well, they kept on fighting on theor feet. But in real life the first .45 causes a stun strong enough to slow the aggressor, the second may bring him to his knees. Momentum is what gives more knock down power. The 45 exhibited less muzzle jump than my 9mm. All the rest, including +p loads, came in under that number. Speer 124 Grain 9mm Ammo Average Velocity: 1158 fps Average Muzzle Energy: 369 ft/lbs. A hollow point 45 will leave a massive hole in an attacker, much larger than your best 9mm. Even if your bullet is only traveling an inch, it will lose velocity, as air drag is steadily wearing down momentum. Curious comment. A different pocket holster might cure this, but so would a larger gun, with the benefit of longer barrel. Thanks, Eric! The 9mm carbine is rapidly replacing the 12-gauge shotgun in many areas of law enforcement, because it holds more ammunition, makes hits more easily, and has negligible recoil. In my experience the 9 millimeter is effective to about 110 yards and semi effective beyond that. That's out of over 100 different rounds tested. My advice is practice, practice, practice!! That would be 1,2,3,4,5 to stop the threat and the rest to miss with. But lets not forget the same developments in HP ammo that allowed 9mm to catch up to .45 ACP FMJ also allowed .45 ACP HP to beef up. Muzzle Energy: 369 lb/ft (230gr at 850FPS) 304 lb/ft (124gr at 1050FPS) . Youtube, ABOUT US have the .45 pistol/carbine combo, luv 'em. And, we all know that the more damage done, to the body, the faster the blood loss. Many handgun enthusiasts believe that bigger is, in fact, better and love everything that the .45 ACP has to offer. I have total confidence in that pistol. Hmmm, always been a 1911 45cal chap,although 38cal is certainly better than 9mm which has been known to bounce off suspects believe it or not.Good article,interesting points! Well, when it comes to home defense, the .45 ACP does hold, Well, this might rock your world but I recommend getting one of each, While there are a number of compact .45 ACP models on the market, as a general rule, you can expect the 9mm to be more, Ultimately, both calibers are great to have. I was working off averages that clearly didn't account for the extreme edge of the versatility of the 45 ACP cartridge. Karl, youve clearly done no ballistics research and are relying entirely on anecdotes and your own experience. I would and have felt safe with one. Really? The cheaper sprays have less contents so don't spray as long. 540 ft lb was the highest recorded muzzle energy for the 9mm in their testing. Kind of like when they took away the man stoppin 308 cal m14 and gave them a stinking 223 varmint round to fight a war with in nam. Our Friends Sure enough, it is certainly more destructive from what I've seen. Well use another sports analogy to make this point: think of a linebacker traveling at 6 mph, which is a typical jogging speed. It's human nature. 45 loses in every category except possibly suppression and shallow penetration, if you want to call that a pro. But I know you won't understand. BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: 9mm Luger Results ATTENTION: Effective Sept 1, 2020, the BBTI Project is in "Archive Status." No further tests will be conducted, but we will maintain this site and data for the use of the firearms community. About "Youre welcome Europe" well, it could be useffull to open History books : France made the biggest part of the job, with England, during WW1. This isnt a pride of ownership statement either. The 9mm generally comes in loads of between 88-147 grain. Energy at the target, which is considered critical to terminal performance, is enhanced when a bullet is traveling at a higher speed. Thats half an in bigger then the 9mm? It didnt take much to convince me. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. I'd rather have a .22 short revo than just my index finger. With a wider selection of officers being able to shoot handguns chambered in 919mm, many departments choose this caliber so they can standardize around a single firearm and loading, making logistics and supply easier. There has to be an overall advantage in close to medium range combat. My personal preference for a home defense handgun is a full-sized pistol chambered in .45 ACP. I take my Colt Gold Cup in .45ACP any day over a typical 9mm pistol. Thanks for the article, and for the mature comments. To give you an idea of muzzle velocity statistics, here are a few listed velocities for specific products in some of the most popular cartridges: I have both and like them both. Underwood ammo shows muzzle energy of 600-725 range for the 10mm and 1074-1125+ for 41. You might be wondering which caliberis better for youthe 9mm or the .45 ACP. The Army, (of course), received them first. Im a little bit late to the party, but thanks for this. Bull!! Ok, Id agree thats a pretty reasoned response - its a complex issue (eg. If you have to shoot, common wisdom says shoot to kill, worry about it afterwards. I'm going with the 45 because I'm also getting a Henry lever action rifle to match it. Skeet shooting and duck hunting are his all-time favorite hobbies, but he's more than ready to talk your ear off about collecting and sport shooting as well. But the idea that the .45 will stop a man in his tracks no matter where you shoot him is preposterous. Thanks. Either way, the 9mm and the .45 ACP both pack a strong enough punch to neutralize any threat. I consider 45acp and 9mm in the same class. Imagine a world where those guys held the power to wipe out the north American continent. Thanks for the one sided argument. Great piece. The pattern element in the name contains the unique identity number of the account or website it relates to. I was in the Corps during the .45 ACP to 9mm swap. lbs. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. This will eliminate the threat on fewer rounds. Great article. And also i want 9mm both of them. Its simple physics whats going to cause more damagea Federal HST 147gr 9mm going 1000 fps or a Federal HST 180gr 40 going 1010 fps? I agree with what the majority of old veterans say. some info is well hidden for obvious reasons. "ANY GUN will do!! In fact, unlike the other calibers in this study, over half of the 9mm rounds from the 1800 bodies involved in shootings were FMJ. Once it is dead, it cannot be deader. Pew Pew needs to talk to professionals rather than giving amateur opinions. When i saw people who were actually shot with it and survived I opted for the 40 S&W. As a trauma room doctor pointed out in one article I was reading, bullets that leave the body are less effective than ones that stay in. All loads and pistols are available commercially at the time of this writing. Practice both bullseye and tactical shooting skills. I can still put a magazine full of .45 ACP right on target fast enough to get yelled at by the range officer. with your statement 9mm has less recoil. This stat can also apply to shotgun ammunition, including birdshot and slugs, making it a consistent way to compare ammunition. Any high penetration rounds for handguns beyond fmj are usually considered as "armor piercing" and therefore illegal in the us. The 919mm Parabellum (also known as 9mm Parabellum or 9mm Luger or simply 9mm) is a rimless, tapered firearms cartridge . Capacity is not as huge a deal as you make it out to be, you tried to compare police shootings to civilian ones. Today it sends your readers to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence." n 2014, the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) released a report detailing the potential combat effectiveness of the 9mm cartridge when compared to other calibers such as the .45 ACP and the .40 S&W cartridge that was specifically developed for use by the FBI. You said: "With a .45 you can hit him anywhere, even in the arm or shoulder, and you're going to knock him down. What ends an engagement is being able to walk away from it. If a higher capacity magazine (15) might be needed (such as law enforcement), go with the 9mm. Mass times velocity is momentum. The password should contain at least 8 characters with at least one number or special character. Thats likely more distance than youll need for self-defense. Sit down, you sound dumb. One or two will stand out. I believe the opposite, actually: that all Americans should be required to own and be educated on guns . He is an active competition shooter with 14 medals from Camp Perry. It is up to you to determine the compatibility of any ammo with your particular pistols. https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2017/03/9mm-40-45-acp-stopping-power/ With the 14RD+1 extension handle mag that's my HP4573. Just saying, look it up. I had hoped for more than just a speed comparison. Youll do well to pick heavier bullet weights that convey a, The Latin in the 9mms full name is short for. I dont know, however, this translates to a roughly 10% increase in energy being put into your target. What if you can't deploy your firearm in time? I have been shot, it happened in the suburbs back in '74. If they are still coming you have to be able to keep shooting. :), Here's an old lady's take on it: the best gun/caliber is what YOU shoot best. Hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst case escenario. My original TL is credited with 30-40 at Son Tay. Very accurate pistol setup. I hope this helps. It squirts so much flame out the sides it would scare an attacker half to death. Pulling up graph for 223 one sees energy increasing almost linearly with barrel length up 18 where the graph ends. There are videos and statistics comparing 357 and 45 acp. Only thing I would add is my home defense pistol fights me to my riflesince pistol rounds are weak compared to a good old 5.56. Subscribe to Pew Pew Tactical's sales and deals email. I see you thanked Sig Sauer and Black Hills at the bottom, but no results for either in the spread sheet and none for Sig in the graph. But do please keep up the good work with the site - from a country where only the police are allowed handguns, its like a window on the free world. I guarantee it's not something you'll want to do again any time soon. Good day, Karl. The same size 9mm semi auto usually holds more rounds (often 15+1) than a 45. that is much easier to deal with. He didn't make it and when they found the round it was in his neck. (, We noticed that you have previously logged in with your, Check what do you get by creating an account, Bookmark and compare your favorite firearms, The debate over the 9mm and .45 ACP is one of the, The U.S. Army eventually switched over to the. 9mm rarely reaches major (165PF) unless specially loaded and unsafe if you ask me. The article states that the 9mm has caught up to the 45 because of ammo advancements. 9mm vs. .45. If you can hit with one and allways misswith the others , I think I would chose the one you can make the most hits with, just from my own exsperance , I had some mild steel targets out at my home we used to shoot at all day and almost every day with .38 spl, And 9 mm, then I bought a kimber1911 Thanks for the tips Katherine. (Pew Pew Eric) Keep the awesome info coming, I love your emails and love your site! However, that damage is effectively wasted since the cartridges were designed so that they worked as ball ammo. anything extra and your If you can place three (3) rounds in the black, the debate of 9mm vs 45 acp does not really mater. But the greater concern is, that Judges in my country do not like defensive shooting. i have used them on Coyotes and have seen the damage they are quite impressive. I like both & depending on where I'm going, how long I'll be gone, what I'm wearing & how I'm feeling makes my choice for me. We say these things and move on. Like clipped on the front of your backpack harness or belt, in a manner where it can quickly be retrieved and used. From Firearm Wiki: The Internet Gun Encyclopedia, Velocity by Barrel Length of Various Calibers, Firearms Chambered in 9mm (Palmetto State Armory), https://firearmwiki.com/index.php?title=9mm_Velocity_by_Barrel_Length&oldid=1702, About Firearm Wiki: The Internet Gun Encyclopedia. Where's the test evidence? I chose 45 acp. Our liberties have eroded because we've had generations of snowflake feel gooders raise and educate our youth to believe their hippie nonsense and they are more than willing to trade their freedom for that occasionally fluffy feeling in their tummies. 45 ACP is better than nothing for sure , but 9mm is a superior cartridge. CONNECT WITH US Josh surely has the skills to know that the results of this test on recoil and accuracy are more important than VELO only. I had one patient shot 11 times with what looked like a .380 or 9mm, hard to tell on xray. But as I wrote before, I will be sent to jali for that and I dont like small places :D 15 years ago, a 210 or 215 was something to be embarrassed about. So, even if the 45 "hits harder", that only matters if your on target. . Some has been published here and I am working on other barrel length projects. I'm not a big guy, 170 lb, I can easily carry 2 Sorry I mis-spelled your name Katherine. Google DoubleClick IDE cookies are used to store information about how the user uses the website to present them with relevant ads and according to the user profile. It shows you like 9m you talk about both but talking about 45 it was more about 9m but talking about 9m it was 9m but I enjoyed to know it so me both. American lend-lease foodstuffs accounted for over 10% of Britain's over-all food supply during the war. The wound tracks of a 9mm and a .45 ACP are almost the same. gear. It is not an issue. The hydrostatic shock of a .45 is inherently greater than a 9mm. Not to mention the permanent fragmentation wounds are nasty in themselves. As the most popular handgun cartridge, 9mm ammo is available with every conceivable type of projectile including frangible, shot, rubber, and blank. If the latter is true, the .45acp is still a better round. Good show! I'm not knocking the 9mm as a protection weapon. Faster bullets are generally more reliable for downrange shooting because they dont drop nearly as much. Once you're done watching YouTube videos, come back when you have more real world experience. Was this test set up as a DOE (Design of Experiments) or an OFAT (One Factor at a Time) test? I expect our understanding of how bullets cause damage will evolve as well. In that case consider a 10mm or .357 magnum (better get a .44 magnum) depending on how big the bears are. It's just going to tear stuff up more in there. This is an Alexa Analytics cookie that is used to track user behavior. The only guns we fire are on computer games. Not saying I could do any better but figured it would be closer to 50%. Velocity: 1,181 ft/s. The average penetration is as follows: .380 ACP (14.9"), 9mm (17.1"), .40 S&W (17.9"), .357 SIG (18.0"), .45 ACP (18.1"), and 10mm (18.9"). Youve shot hundreds of people with both 45ACP and 9mm under exacting reproducible scientific conditions ? you can not have any mags that hold more then 10 rounds, so I had to buy 10 round mags for the model 59 and at the same time I found 10 round ags for the m1991A. When a bullet it traveling at a faster rate, it will not drop as quickly. Some people prefer the heavier feel of a .45 ACP, while others find the light and slim nature of the 9mm easier to use. In fact, since the world began, only 3 people have been:- Select what level shooter you are! In my opinion 185 grain .45 Auto hollow points are a better pistol round than any 9 millimeter Luger out there. Which is why spec ops and the FBI still have 45 acp in their arsenals. It's a hardwired biological response. Unfortunately for LEOs, the kind of training that can effectively simulate actual firefights is limited to our special forces folks, as most PDs dont have the budget or manpower to train well for actual gunfights. Muzzle velocity is simply a measure of the speed of the projectile the moment it leaves the barrel. I like the heavier gun though due to the longer site radius, repeat target acquisition and the ability to steady the weapon. Click below for a FREE LESSON! The attacker broke in through that door and the lady emptied her revolver into the guy before he was stopped. Veteran SWAT freeze. Anyone that has fired a gun indoors knows the value of a subsonic round and a suppressor. Inside the home I find .45 is the most comfortable. Speed, power & high capacity. Hope I was some help. For 'social work' I prefer 40 to 9 or 45(acp) but for the same reasons 10mm would probably be a good choice - but it's no 41 magnum. Youll hear a lot of people say that the .45 is better because it shoots a bigger caliber bullet, or that the 9mm is better because of its capacity. Muzzle Velocity ft/sec. We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. Yeah its not close because its way higher moron. But the 10mm has the speed of the 9mm & is even faster & has the power of a .357 mag ---- .41 mag depending on the ammo you buy Plus it holds 15+1. You have the triple package. That being said, every one raves about the FPS of the 9mm. 9mm: having more range, muzzle velocity, more accuracy(depending on the professionalism of the shooter), less recoil, a smaller cal(meaning the gun will have more capacity) and more penetration(Depending on the grain). However, I have to admit youre way ahead of us with the second amendment! 1350+ FPS in my 5 inch barrel Colt Gold Cup. But the .45 Auto does not have the power you are claiming it has. Along with comments as well! You DO have to have the spray handy though. Don't be so quick to kill your brother just because his opinion is different than yours . As well as reliability? A 124 grain plus P will not start dropping velocity until somewhere over 16 inches of barrel. Would I even ever use it? Any one who reads this should know that vital truth! Their testing shows some bullets speed up and slow down and speed up and so on, as they travel up the barrel. Well it will make holes in bad guy/rabbid dog I am confident that I can stop attack with .22LR cause I can shoot 8 rounds in about 3 secconds center body mass, palm size group. Go ahead, cite your experience. So basically range time was paramount. Then you said because of bullet technology, the .45acp has also improved. Americans note that Europeans have small countries with a central government each, whereas the US is a country thousands of miles across with 367 million people, and a ton of different states. You end up with the same energy as a .223/5.56 but with less risk of over penetration , which is great for a situation like home defense when you cant always know whats on the other side of the wall. This begs the question: is bigger necessarily better? one of them went completely through the bear. I have them all. The people are different, the lifestyle is different, the people think different. I dont have a problem with the recoil of any of the calibers so thats not an issue for me. Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. If you want knock down power take up boxing . Its the gun I run classes with and is setup on my battle/SHTF rig. Thus, it is deadlier. A 7" barrel with a 7" suppressor would still give an overall length of 14 inches, so going up to 10" for a little extra velocity would put you at just about 17" with a suppressor, which is still going to handle better than a 16" barrel, along with the benefits of being suppressed. But personally I would have both a BIG gun like 44 Magnum and spray, not one or the other. If not, you may shot again but not before. This is a debate that will go on as long as there are those who don't want to accept the laws of physics. 3. There is such a variety of pistols in public use that we will not determine what guns are compatible with which loads. I thought this was going to get way uglier in the comments. The 9mm features some interesting advantages. Well cover the calibers capabilities and offer velocity, energy and bullet drop data for the most popular 919 loads at AmmoToGo.com. When I went to Ballistics101.com a few years ago, I got all the data from the rounds they're tracking and averaged them out per caliber in terms of energy. The G 17 is probably the most carried pistol in American LE. That would be like using some of the retail 10mm ammo that is similar to regular 40s. An average muzzle velocity of 9mm ammunition, that being the energy the bullet leaves the barrel with, is around 1,200 feet per second (commonly abbreviated as fps or ft/s). I have a Sig 1911 Ultra Compact .45 and a Sig P938 9mm. 9x19mm Parabellum is by far the most popular handgun cartridge for self-defense in the world. Bye, Karl. In the case of average muzzle energy for a given caliber, that would be the 9x19mm. If youre firing 9mm ammo with a pistol caliber carbine, expect to get another 5-10% velocity out of your ammo. What a glory to shoot, minimal recoil, and excellent stopping power. As for the difference between 9 mm and 45 does not even compare thats why when you see police having to fire many shots to take down a criminal when 1 shot from a 45 will take him off his feet Stop trying to justify taking effective weapons away for less effective ones. I gather he was just Firing the pistol into an effective area. Lots of experts claiming facts on stopping power, energy, penetration, etc. The 2 main reasons for the switch was 1. cost 2. ammunition since all our NATO allies use the 9. Installed by Google Analytics, _gid cookie stores information on how visitors use a website, while also creating an analytics report of the website's performance. For resources, I recommend Rory Miller as he dedicated a chapter in his book to the freeze, Marc MacYoung how to avoid violence in general, and Tim Larkin. Option two; You select a certain ammunition that has been proved to not fully penetrate. To think you need 15+1 is just imo foolish. And then some more. The entrance and exit wound will be bigger (with a good hollow point). I myself started out carrying a 22.lr handgun because it was what I shot since I was a kid. It isn't a miracle round. The correct bullet for the job Either expanding or hard cast for penetration. You have to live, or die, by your choice. Like many, I like both. That said, I'm splitting hairs, because I can handle both well enough, and I would feel well armed with either. Well, accuracy can be paramount. Best thing to do before buying, in my opinion, As a civilian I shouldnt find myself in a situation in the street to have to shoot into cars and where I live by code all exterior walls are concrete. 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