The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. Did anybody take the poor performing guns to a reputable gunsmith and have them tuned up? http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg The Ruger LCP II, released by Ruger at the end of 2016, sought to remedy many of those downsides. LMFAO!!!! And for sure never shot one. My dad bought a CPX-whichever has the safety about a month ago; Ill have to ask him what he thinks of it next time we talk. Given all that, wouldnt it be nice to know which pocket guns you can rule out right off the bat? This crowdsourced data points arent perfect, but if a product gets a statistically significant number of votes, we get a pretty good idea of how it stacks up thanks to the wisdom-of-crowds phenomenon. 5 Best 380 Pistols for Concealed Carry in 2022 - Gun News While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. No issue with it. Anyway, all just my opinion here. My NAA .380 ACP with Novak 3 dot night sights has been 100% reliable with every ammo tried and as accurate as I am. How is this journalisim? But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. And we have to like it enough to carry it. Still cant find that silent u in it to make it sky. Heck, the CM40s steel-framed brother, the MK40, is currently ranked in the top 5 (granted, with only 10 votes so far). No problems when used within its limits. He does not know how to use it. No problem with the SCCY at all. Nemesis pocket holster, and 1 spare mag, goes everyehere. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. Can't argue with Sig, but I'd also add Beretta to that list, both the Will eventually add a CW380 as a BUG and for times when the CM40 is just too big ha ha. Take the guns in this article, for example: did people downvote them because they were too uncomfortable to fire? Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. 400 rounds! Beretta did a fine job on the Pocket Pistol. Do you perhaps have a very early one? Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. 2) Cobra Firearms CA380 (4.3 stars 0.9, 36 votes). These guns shoot any ammo I have fed it. I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. And that considering the Kahr is a fine gun. So special, they ride the short bus. Wanted to check to see if my comments really apply to your site, and it looks like your server is in melt-down. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches its easy to conceal even under light capacity. The ratings would be a lot more reliable if everyone had to write a review along with the rating. You hold the slide back to engage the cocking. Each of these guns has a lightweight, compact design making them ideal for concealed carry. This gun looks a whole lot like the Ruger LCP and Kel-Tec P-3AT. You find that to be an effective way to make friends and influence people? I had issues with mine to start. Take down the Pico. Its elegant lines and precision engineering have a timeless appeal. SCCY Industries CPX-2 (4.3 stars 0.4, 99 votes) This gun is budget-friendly Except for a derringer but that is because the prior owner dry fired it which you are to never do. The Picos have a huge fan base. Far better than any of the others gun you talk about on this rag of a story. Yet one more advantage for the LCP II is the fact that the slide locks back on the final round fired to signal you are empty. (1) Astroturfing happens, both ways. The number of ratings is what sold his other books. Its not a range gun, and should not be treated as such. No problems what so ever. I would have bet the farm that the Ruger LCP was the worst small pistol ever created. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. My other gun is a Beretta PX4. Ive got a CPX-2 and a Hellcat. It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. You want an example of why internet polls are not representative? Go to Genitron and compare.And very little muzzle flip. The SCCY has one of the best rating out of these guns on your post. There is a reason why this is Berettas top Pocket gun. Mine also runs well, and they feel really well made. Also cobra has a lifetime warranty on their guns if you do the warranty. That being said, the LCP II can also be carried IWB or in an ankle holster just as easily as it could be carried in a pocket. So, pocket guns being inherently hard to shoot and prone to limp wristing will experience failures. Nope. I also have the Kahr. The CPX-2 fails to fully eject one shell per magazine. One for range and one for carry. Thats when I could get them to respond to my emails, that is. Ruger has proven that you dont need to have an arduous and gritty trigger pull on a .380 auto and its likely that more manufacturers will now follow their lead. Certainly one of the ugliest pistols ever manufactured, this weapon made the list of worst military pistols because its dangerous design easily surpassed its repellant appearance. Ultra smooth shooters. Keltec P-11 listed as 10+1 on THEIR website. BTW except for the cobra all these little guns got good reviews at various timesFWIW. For instance, I have owned 4 lcps and the pico will run circles around them. There is nothing copyrightable in those designs. You did NOT mention that the Pico has RE-STRIKE CAPAPIBILITY. The LCP isnt that bad. Therefore, if you want the slide to lock back, you need to use the magazines that were made specifically for the LCP II. This article was total BS. Or do you just sit around Mommies basement pretending to be a gun commando? I am no statistician but most of the sample sizes were very small. The trigger is fantastic, and reassuring in handling and holstering (leather IWB) in ways that Glock is not. Well, youre in luck, because your fellow Americans have voted, and for some pocket guns, the results arent pretty . These arent Rambo guns, they are self defense guns. It covers the trigger guard of the pistol and has a hook and sticky material to stay secure in your pocket so it is easy to draw the pistol from your pocket without bringing the holster with it. Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. you have to wear shorts with a tucked in shirt), the LCP II will be a great option. Its manageable. (dead serious) took it right back to the store. Ill take more objective reviews from knowledgeable shooters. And probably never fired one. I was glad not to see Kel Tac on the bottom list. Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. Did you ever lubricate the gun, or did you just load it and shoot it? Its is almost universally panned from young guys working behind the counter at Academy Sports to anyone who works in local gun shops. It works great if all it does is sit in your pocket. Most of the post are from newbies that know very little about guns in the first place. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. Ruger markets the trigger as having a six pound pull. Oh shit! Diamondback has been plagued by trouble. Glock 42 4. (I like Glocks, but between the trigger and the slimness of the Kahr, Im a convert) My least favorite aspect of the CM40, aside from the revolver-like capacity, is the stiffness of the slide spring. The .380 ACP is not a powerhouse, but its often enough. I really get the feeling you know little about the Pico. I have pocket holsters for all but the S&W and had been carrying the XDS 45 regularly till yesterday. (3) Often in the comment sections of user reviews online, you see stuff being dinged a star or two from superfluous stuff. In fact, yanking the mag should tell him to learn the gun. Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. The .380 ACP semi-automatic pistol is one of the most popular categories of concealed carry weapons in the United States and has been for years. I trust the Colt, Kahr, and Rugers, but I would like more power. I agree, the P3AT is my go to light carry gun. Yes, the LCP II is still a .380 pocket pistol and as a result is still snappy. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! I bought it because the idea of 10+1 rounds in 9mm was very appealing. This is like the buzzfeed of gun articles. It shot pretty well overall, but the trigger sucked. How is the P3AT above the middle of the list? We buy a pocket gun for last-ditch self defense, which literally makes it a do-or-die gun. Why people follow them is a mystery. Was definitely surprised that certain other brands didnt make the list. Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . No issues to complain about. I have not had to use them as my SCCY has functioned perfectly so far. What really won me over was the quality and operation, even on the bargain CM. Certainly it should appear on the Wikipedia page. This gun is budget-friendly and chambered substantially (9mm). Given how clannish and brand-loyal a lot of gunners are, it wouldnt shock me if about half the votes against the SCCY were cast because it wasnt a Glock 43, or something equally biased and stupid. He says it is a blunder. And what sucks is I held off buying a 380 cause I really thought the Pico would be great. Thousands of flawless rounds and handles Hot ammo better than most guns handle standard ammo. His comment about the mag release tell xme his knowledge of the Beretta Pico is limited to picking one up at the most. Does this guy have any gun expertise? I wouldnt go smaller than a Glock 27 in .40 the recoil is too snappy. ******SPONSORED CONTENT/PRODUCT PLACEMENT******. Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? Aside from the problems others have mentioned, the thing is slippery as hell. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. Wouldnt take much time for an employee or contractor of one of these manufacturers to buff up the ratings, or down rate a competitor. On that note, you KNOW were kind of spoiled with all the great pocket guns available today. Hey Dan, what gun have you designed or invested in? I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. The wisdom of the crowd phenomenon? Kahr CW 380. The CM40 being smaller and lighter might exhibit a little more, but its not unmanageable. It is also the only 10 shot 9mm you can find that is truly small enough to pocket carry. Happy ending. The muzzle blast can be quite impressive and women should definitely fire their guns at the range. 4) Beretta Pico(4.1 stars 0.3, 134 votes), Color me shockedto see the Pico down here with the bottom feeders because Beretta is a major manufacturer that produces lots of quality firearms. Ruger LCP II .380 ($349) But still, Im sure there are worse ones. I really think you never did anything with the Pico other than Picking one up and then getting of the internet and posting without any knowledge of how to use the firearm. We even joked that we needed to start a Pocket Gun Palma match. I will run the Pico side by side the Kahr any day and have. Just a BS review to gain clicks and views. [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. Im a Glock 27 guy, so I dont mind recoil. My shooting buddy has an LCP. When I told him I never have a problem with my P-11 or my wifes Ruger SR-9, he then said maybe its the ammo. Jed Henson runs the handgun review and rating site gunsgunsguns.net. No I dont own one I own two. It is a small barrel gun NOT a target gun. Quick Summary: Our Top Picks For 5 Best .380 Pistols in 2022 1. +1. Guess what? 6. Oh not to mention Sccy has great I own expensive pistols and revolvers, as well as a SCCY CPX-2. I have received grief for it as well. But if carry options are limited to just a pocket carry for you (i.e. I own a SCCY CPX-2. So there. The tiny gun is lightweight, inexpensive and comfortable to carry. Im generally a fan of .40, though it does have a bit of a signature snap. Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. How is it possibly at the top of the list? You can get these on line at times for The trigger pull on most .380 autos is exceptionally long and gritty. I have 100s of rounds through both my kahrs with zero fails. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. The CPX-3 and CPX-4 is now available in 380 with less recoil. I dont know if I should believe anything guns3x has to say, he is clearly insane. You should consider using a Bayesian average for this situation. I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. Bottom line, a lifetime warranty isnt worth squat if they cant fix the problem and their only answer is to blame the customer. The guy did a service to the gun community by creating this website and writing a cautionary article, and some assholes gotta focus on the self-promotion. I own and have tested both the CPX1 (manual safety) and CPX2 (no manual safety). To quote his expertise is laughable. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. Actually the design was made so that the magazine would not pop out on firing like other small pocket guns are guilty of, use the release correctly and it is a breeze. Got the CPX-2 for about half price new. (Including the book he wrote about how to cheat Amazon buyers by faking reviews.). As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. Small, accurate and reliable. Lol, I think he is a troll with other guns as well. yes the Masss might love them, but who the hell are the masses? So far wevecollected roughly 34,000 votes with an average rating of 6.1 overall. You need to learn more about handguns before posting such nonsense. So the recoil is stout. i used to own a keltec p11. The thing is about Cobras, hi points that people that call them junk have never actually researched the gun. When it comes to a worst list omitting anything made by Kel Tec is a mistake. That gun, the TCP, gets pretty good marks everywhere Ive seen it reviewed, so I wouldnt expect it to show up on a pocket guns to avoid list. Thats not exactly The TRUTH About Guns. Its easy to see why: .380 pistols are typically small enough to carry in the pocket, they are unquestionably smaller and lighter than competing 9mm single stack autos or .38 snubnose revolvers. Did they succeed? Apparently their readership likes Sigs with large sample sizes. The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. Their guns get copied because George Kelgren never copyrighted the designs. In fact, reading them, even with comments, is quite nearly a waste of time. Have you ever even shot one? Personally, I only go by in person reviews, in this internet age, from people proven trustworthy. It is not some junker throwaway, but a solid, well machined piece with a heavy but smooth DAO trigger which emulates a DA revolver, by design and makes the piece perhaps a bit more safely carried and handled for many that may feel uncomfortable with a light, short pull SA. I owned a SCCY CPX-2 (notice the past tense). Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. Buy Your Tickets Today! You sound smart. Here are some basic facts for the Ruger LCP II: In conclusion, the Ruger LCP II simply represents the beginning of the evolution of the .380 pocket pistol. Just being a bashing b**** , gets you nowhere. Glad I didnt see mine. The one I had was utter shit. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). Kim Kardashian and POTUS are best two examples of known abuse. This is NOT a target gun. I have to disagree about the SCCY CPX-2. Shoot to make the thug dead. I love this site and usually stand behind the things written on it, but this is absolute trash and clickbait. I broke the firing pin on the first day. the Truth about Guns is one of the most biased groups around. By the way John, I have the Kahr, yes nice gun.Shoots well. Id have to disagree with the cpx2s place on the list even though the company had growing pains. For College Campuses! its a good resource with a lot of basic info on a LOT of handguns, a good start for anyone looking at a first gun, for example, or a second, for that matter. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. My God, have you really shot or even handled one? I certainly wouldnt be happy. And with gloves on, even the skin tight shooting gloves, it was impossible to get the trigger to reset without removing my finger from the trigger guard completely, or using my support hand to manually push it forward far enough to reset. The SCCY model CPX-2 is a fine lightweight pistol that shoots a stopper round 9mm. Do it outside with the gun pointing at the ground and mind your hand positions. Having visited that site, I dont think their rating system really gives me enough information to choose between firearms. I bought it after reading the review on TTAG. .40 maybe too big for a leetle sub-compact pistol. Could not disagree more with the articles 3rd selection, namely, the SCCY Industries CPX-2 (not to be confused with its predecessor which had issues of which were acknowledged by the company and subsequently corrected). Uh no. Kahr P380 is the definitive pocket gun. That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! I think the SCCY might be marginally better and has 2 mags. Also it would be great to know if the people voting own the guns they are rating and/or if they have ever shot them. TTAG writerJeremy S. apparently had a non-awful experience with a CA380. So Ill pass on the herd mentality when buying guns thanks.. I would love to meet you and show you what your are NOT talking about. The Pico is built like a tank. Learn to shoot pocket guns and find the truth yourself and stop listening to counter Clerks at big Box stores. Trash. Then Ill be unstoppable!!!!! The warranty cant be beat. On the plus side, the SCCY has a lighter trigger than the Kel-Tec P11 (which may explain the problem), but the P11 always goes bang. The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. Totally agree. Anonymous reviews should be taken VERY suspiciouslyof all product, not just guns. Thats along what I was thinking. Its on the edge of what Id consider using for self-defense, but Id recommend trying to move up to 9mm if possible. Also LCP. We indicate sponsored content as such. It therefore must perform when called upon. I also feel the cw380 has very minimal recoil vs other small 380s in its same size. I carry the SCCY more often and have cycled quite a few rounds through it. Otherwise a worthy imitator of the abandoned Walther PPK. What good is a lifetime warranty if they dont fix it??? I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! either love or hate. Mine works, has worked, continues to work, and has never not gone bang. As long as you shoot the recommended ammo and keep your weapon cleaned, oiled properly, and replace any defective parts you will get much better performance. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. Bounce is not horrible but that along with size will take some of the enjoyment out of the session. The Beretta APX has a 4.4 rating from 22 votes It sucks so hard that its suckage transcends space and time. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! Anyone have the Bersa .380. Great little pistol. Got the Hellcat thrown in when I bought another gun. Every one of these pistols are incredibly easy to conceal in your pocket. Too many women wind up dropping the gun which the thug grabs and then uses on the woman. And I especially enjoy its clever name. Its not Remington R51 bad, but its a pretty lousy firearm. Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. Sure, I can see how many people liked or didnt like a firearm, but more important than that is the REASON they voted the way they did. And of course, they criticize all the brands that dont advertise with them. You can hire chinese brokers to buy likes on Fakebook, and twitter followers by the thousands. I dont expect any pocket gun to be pleasant to shoot, but I ditched my Hellcat after experiencing multiple failures to eject two types of ammo. Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. The serrations on the LCP are also wider in order to get a better grip in slippery conditions when racking the slide. And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. good amount of rounds it is a damn good carry gun. I still have the same problem. Encountered types on the old KT forums that whines like a little girl. You also do not understand how to use the mag release or what it is intended for. Really disappointed in how this was presented. No problem for me but then I have fired well over 100,000 rounds in 50 years. Arguably one of the best and most popular pocket pistols, the pf9, was not on the spreadsheet. I know one person who had a nightmare of an experience with the Diamondback ..380. Funny. IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. (2) You have no idea who the reviewers are and what their qualifications to rate a firearm areeven if they tell you. Caveat: I bought mine used, so I dont know if the previous owner had done any tweaking to get it that reliable or not, or whether a factory-fresh one would need any sort of break-in period. I am surprised high point 380 & 9mm werent included in your list. I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. Im not going to bash talk the CPX-2 , but its going to take me a while to get use to it. Web.380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ The trigger is long and weighty but smooth. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg. They pretty much invented the theory of if you get a good one its good, but when you get a bad one its bad. My hands are simply too large for the tiny Ruger. My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. HICKCOCK45 SAID OF THE PICO I really like this trigger. I shoot a lot of pocket guns. Horrible, awful trigger. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. This is what I really hate about stories like the one posted. Seriously, it works if you have a fresh pair of springs in it. How so? No problems with it at all. The cobra looks very similar to a firearm my mother owns. Even a novice can see the better build quality of the Pico. Definitelythe first Gen 1 models had problemsHowever, the second Gen 2 models are fine. Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. Those small NAA revolvers you have to learn how to safely load and unload. Top 5 .380 Pistols Our Top Pick Glock 42 .380 ACP Sportsmans Warehouse (Check Price) Palmetto State Armory (Check Price) Primary Arms (Check Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. And than some. I doubt he even read the directions. Fan boys gotta fan boy, and critics gotta criticize. I recommend them to people all the time, but I do caution that, as is to be expected with a DAO, the trigger is long. I dont see it. Look at the back of the slide. Actually bought a second one. It came back still not fixed. anyone can vote on any gun whether they own or have even seen the gun in person. check the ammo?? Literally, it is.) 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